[Hmm, I now really regret what I didn't clone my bloated hg repo at
that time. So, I did revert a modified source file, this means it was
implicitly backed up w/ .orig suffix. But *.orig is gone accidentally,
OMGWTF, GIMMEH BAK MAH PRECIOS C0DE!!11!1 :(]
[BTW, I poked app-editors/efte.]
[It couldn't exec at build dir is a known issue for 1.0.]
[Added my stupid japanese translation into efte.desktop.]
[It can be input Japanese, but isn't capable of UTF-8, so multibyte character will be garbled ATM, but is planned.]
- キーボード入力がバグってたのはX11 hintsの問題で、svn trunkでは直ってる。
[A bug WRT keyboard input is caused by wrong X11 hints, these are fixed in svn trunk.]
[The following is t3h log on #efte.]
03/06 21:17:54 hiyuh
03/06 21:18:11 Bushmills
03/06 21:18:14 hiyuh
efte can not run its build dir?
03/06 21:18:18 hiyuh
just running ./src/efte in build dir here, but it vomits error about
03/06 21:18:20 Bushmills
03/06 21:18:53 Bushmills
hm... should be a one liner, in the config dir. what version do
03/06 21:19:13 hiyuh
just pulled from svn repos. :)
03/06 21:19:30 Bushmills
ok. i'd suggest to hand-make the missing file:
03/06 21:19:42 Bushmills
create a directory .efte in your home dir ..
03/06 21:20:05 hiyuh
and btw, it's about 21:20 in japan. so I'd have to say "konbanwa" :)
03/06 21:20:05 Bushmills
and in there, create a file which contains:
03/06 21:20:12 Bushmills
03/06 21:20:23 Bushmills
sorry, my bad. konbanwa
03/06 21:20:31 hiyuh
03/06 21:21:03 Bushmills
that mymain.fte in .efte can serve as base for your personal
03/06 21:21:43 Bushmills
a copy of it was supposed to be in ~/efte/config
03/06 21:21:52 hiyuh
03/06 21:24:30 Bushmills
running efte with optionss -v or -v -v should show the files
it includes, or attempts to.
03/06 21:24:44 Bushmills
on std err
03/06 21:25:43 Bushmills
running efte with -v or -v -v from an xterm is probably maybe
the easiest way to see that output
03/06 21:26:33 hiyuh
03/06 21:26:48 hiyuh
oh, ITJUSTWORKS(tm) :)
03/06 21:27:25 Bushmills
sound good. what OS, what CPU is that?
03/06 21:28:39 Bushmills
you may like the new script language, it incorporates a bit of
japanese grammar :)
03/06 21:28:58 hiyuh
Gentoo Linux/PowerPC, Apple PowerBook 12' last model.
03/06 21:30:08 Bushmills
03/06 21:31:11 Bushmills
can you look into your svn dirs of efte, especially in efte/config,
whether you can see a mymain.fte in there?
03/06 21:33:31 hiyuh
yup, it has 'include "systemmain.fte";', others are #-prefixed.
03/06 21:34:11 Bushmills
hm .. efte should have found and used that one, when not finding
your local .efte/ ... versiin.
03/06 21:34:13 Bushmills
03/06 21:35:00 Bushmills
japanese grammar uses a lot of noun verb structures?
03/06 21:35:07 Bushmills
03/06 21:35:43 hiyuh
03/06 21:35:46 hiyuh
03/06 21:37:00 Bushmills
object ... action structures seem to be common in japanese language?
03/06 21:37:59 Bushmills
"cake have not if cake eat not then"
03/06 21:56:35 Bushmills
that's what new efte script language incorporates too
03/06 22:06:27 hiyuh
hmm, I'm not sure what you mean though. could you mind to input
sentence as engrish to me? then I can translate it to japanese and
03/06 22:06:42 hiyuh
03/06 22:11:58 ln-
03/06 22:12:13 hiyuh
hi ln- :)
03/06 22:12:52 ln-
would you like to help all japanese eFTE-on-linux users and translate
the following two menu item descriptions into japanese:
03/06 22:12:55 ln-
03/06 22:12:57 ln-
Comment=Fast, extendable programmers' text editor
03/06 22:13:09 ln-
they can also be found in packaging/shared/efte.desktop on svn.
03/06 22:13:27 hiyuh
03/06 22:16:50 hiyuh
hmm, "fast" is fuzzy word to me. :)
03/06 22:18:48 ln-
fast, quick, light, ...
03/06 22:26:16 hiyuh
03/06 22:31:34 ln-
03/06 22:32:16 CIA-39
efte: lanurmi * r905 /trunk/packaging/shared/efte.desktop: Added
Japanese translation (thanks to hiyuh).
03/06 22:32:48 hiyuh
03/06 22:40:42 ln-
so is (e)FTE usable at all for writing Japanese? (due to charset
03/06 22:54:19 hiyuh
omg, nefte can be input japanese but it becomes garbled charcter. any
setting is required for utf-8 or unicode env?
03/06 22:56:51 Bushmills
not yet, but addition is planned
03/06 22:57:46 jeremy_c
03/06 22:57:53 hiyuh
and omg again, efte (not nefte) doesn't response any keyboard input
on wmii which is my favorite wm.
03/06 22:58:31 jeremy_c
hiyuh: really? I've used wmii before (using awesome right now). I'll
check it out.
03/06 22:59:27 jeremy_c
hiyuh: do you get any load errors/warnings? Maybe a config file is
not found? We have been doing *heavy* work on the config system,
it's possible that if not found, it loads w/an empty config, thus,
no keys are mapped to any action.
03/06 23:01:07 Bushmills
03/06 23:03:12 jeremy_c
hiyuh: hm, I just read back, and yes, that is a current problem
w/eFTE and one reason it's not 1.0 yet. It should run from it's
build directory. However, it searches in common locations. The
quickest solution to fix your keyboard problem, config problems,
etc... is do to:
03/06 23:03:22 jeremy_c
03/06 23:03:36 jeremy_c
ln -s ~/path/to/efte/config /usr/local/share/efte/config
03/06 23:04:26 jeremy_c
if you do that, efte will begin responding correctly. Just finding
a mymain is not quite enough, it needs to find the other files such
as the key mapping, menu and mode setup. Can you please give that
a try and I'll bet it starts responding in wmii.
03/06 23:11:04 jeremy_c
hiyuh: also, out of curiosity, how did you find efte? we are pretty
new and curious how people find us.
03/06 23:13:08 hiyuh
hmm, made symlink as you said. but it doesn't response too. :(
03/06 23:13:25 hiyuh
and I found efte at portage tree.
03/06 23:14:29 jeremy_c
hm, that's not making sense. I *really* appriciate you coming here
and reporting this problem.
03/06 23:14:54 jeremy_c
can you do efte -v and paste the results to rafb.net/paste ?
03/06 23:15:01 hiyuh
03/06 23:17:00 hiyuh
03/06 23:18:09 jeremy_c
well, it found all the config scripts, so that's not the problem.
03/06 23:20:01 jeremy_c
Ok, and just checked out the latest efte also from svn (was sleeping
and not caught up on Bushmills changes). Let me install wmii.
03/06 23:22:38 Bushmills
always when i break it, jeremy_c has to fix it again :)
03/06 23:22:54 hiyuh
jeremy_c: efte can only response by mouse input.
03/06 23:23:01 hiyuh
03/06 23:23:21 jeremy_c
hiyuh: hm, working fine here in this wmii. this is very strange.
03/06 23:23:52 jeremy_c
hiyuh: how do I get a new xterm in wmii?
03/06 23:25:10 jeremy_c
Ok, it would take a bit of getting use to again, but I got a new
xterm. I do not seem to be seeing any problem while running in wmii.
03/06 23:25:50 hiyuh
jeremy_c: $MODKEY-Retern, my $MODKEY is Mod4 (Apple key), default
is Mod1 (Alt) as you know.
03/06 23:27:35 hiyuh
and FYI I'm using wmii of hg tip (2292).
03/06 23:28:07 jeremy_c
I just did a pacman -S wmii, it installed 3.6
03/06 23:28:25 jeremy_c
does it support multihead?
03/06 23:28:46 jeremy_c
right now all my windows are vertically split stretched across
03/06 23:29:14 jeremy_c
03/06 23:32:00 jeremy_c
ah, now I remember why I did not continue using wmii, it does not
right now, seems it is going to be added in v4. However, that's
secondary problem, right now, why does eFTE not respond to key
03/06 23:33:13 Bushmills
i wonder whether that problem is wmii related. maybe try to run it
just from an xterm, no wm at all.
03/06 23:33:33 Bushmills
startx $(which xterm) -- :1
03/06 23:33:58 Bushmills
might work from within X, starting a new X server
03/06 23:34:01 jeremy_c
Bushmills: I was just in wmii and had no problems, however, it was
not the dev edition, but I can't see what wmii would be doing to cause
efte not to work, but other apps to. this is truely a weird situation.
03/06 23:35:16 jeremy_c
hiyuh: but it would give us another thing to eliminate if you could
03/06 23:35:18 Bushmills
but before efte accepted chars. UTF input, but not outputting well,
03/06 23:36:51 hiyuh
k, I'll try on twm. :p
03/06 23:39:47 jeremy_c
hiyuh: thanks for giving this a go, sorry your having problems.
03/06 23:41:02 hiyuh
jeremy_c: no problem. twm is emerged just now. I'll test it at
03/07 00:10:58 jeremy_c
03/07 00:11:21 hiyuh
03/07 00:13:07 hiyuh
zomg, efte works fine on twm
03/07 00:13:30 jeremy_c
ok... I think I may have found the problem. I was in #wmii talking.
03/07 00:13:44 jeremy_c
Let me make a change to eFTE and see if that fixes your problem, OK?
03/07 00:13:56 hiyuh
yup, do it :)
03/07 00:16:14 CIA-39
efte: jeremy_c * r906 /trunk/src/con_x11.cpp: Set InputHint in
03/07 00:16:35 jeremy_c
give svn up and give it a go again. Be sure to svn up in the root
03/07 00:17:18 hiyuh
03/07 00:18:05 hiyuh
03/07 00:20:05 jeremy_c
03/07 00:20:39 hiyuh
yup, ITJUSTWORKS(tm) :)
03/07 00:20:59 jeremy_c
03/07 00:21:31 jeremy_c
we will get the problem of not being able to run it from the source
tree fixed soon.
03/07 00:22:42 hiyuh
03/07 00:22:54 jeremy_c
hiyuh: the docs on configuration are a bit out of date... we've
been heavily modifying the scripting/configuration and have not been
able to keep up w/every change on the wiki. Before we release 1.0,
we will update the docs.
03/07 00:38:51 CIA-39
efte: jeremy_c * r907 /trunk/src/con_x11.cpp: Another minor fix to
the X11 state hints
03/07 00:42:57 CIA-39
efte: jeremy_c * r908 /trunk/src/con_x11.cpp: Ok, this is the last
WM_HINTS patch, really.
03/07 00:43:07 jeremy_c
hiyuh: I'm sorry, my quick fix wasn't quite complete, can I bug you
to svn up and try again and see if it still works as expected?
03/07 00:46:48 *
hiyuh does svn up
03/07 00:53:48 hiyuh
jeremy_c: works fine too. :)
03/07 00:53:59 jeremy_c
hiyuh: great. thanks for your help w/that bug.
03/07 00:54:30 hiyuh