if (repo.st == BROKEN) do_release(&repo.src);

commit日常茶飯事upstream devsとbug世話人distro devsの憂鬱（？） :)
[T3h antinomy(?) of upstream and distro devs. :)]

05/21 06:09:48 loki_val
    Why is it whenever an upstream starts talking about doing unversioned
    releases right from git, I get the urge to crush some nuts and
    eat them?
05/21 06:10:06 loki_val
    YOU'RE UPSTREAM. RELEASES'R'YOU!
05/21 06:15:31 hiyuh
    hmm
05/21 06:16:31 hiyuh
    loki_val is a sucessor of jakub?
05/21 06:16:35 *
    hiyuh hides
05/21 06:17:11 loki_val
    hmmm...
05/21 06:17:14 *
    loki_val smacks hiyuh
05/21 06:17:17 hiyuh
    lol
05/21 06:17:23 loki_val
    sorry, don't have the class
05/21 06:18:11 eroyf
    nor the mentallity
05/21 06:18:17 darksiide
    Ingmar: new jeeves?
05/21 06:19:01 loki_val
    hilighted you
05/21 06:19:58 eroyf
    i saw it and ignored it
05/21 06:21:07 bonsaikitten
    loki_val: try fedora
05/21 06:21:35 loki_val
    bonsaikitten: sry, only works with distros that won't compile.
05/21 06:21:37 bonsaikitten
    loki_val: after seeing that mess you'll understand that releases
    are fubar by default and unversioned won't break stuff
05/21 06:22:10 bonsaikitten
    loki_val: the fedora installer, it treats serious errors (like kernel
    not installable) as unimportant warning that the user won't even see
05/21 06:22:14 bonsaikitten
    wtf ...
05/21 06:22:50 loki_val
    Unversioned doesn't break stuff. But one thing's for certain; if
    nothing's versioned, it won't ever be release-worthy.
05/21 06:23:17 loki_val
    It's just a point in time when the software doesn't suck as much as
    it usually does.
05/21 06:32:07 AStorm
    loki_val: you're so wrong
05/21 06:32:31 AStorm
    release is the point in time when CDs are made and every development
    is frozen
05/21 06:32:40 AStorm
    so only so-called "stable changes" are made
05/21 06:32:41 bonsaikitten
    erm
05/21 06:32:46 bonsaikitten
    AStorm: dude ... what??
05/21 06:33:03 loki_val
    AStorm: I dare you to run git kernel.
05/21 06:33:11 loki_val
    Please.
05/21 06:33:13 AStorm
    loki_val: I do, so what?
05/21 06:33:20 Ken69267
    I ran a git kernel for about 5 months straight no probs
05/21 06:33:30 AStorm
    it's 97% of time stable. Or more.
05/21 06:33:43 AStorm
    they are versioned
05/21 06:33:45 bonsaikitten
    which one?
05/21 06:33:49 bonsaikitten
    97 or more?
05/21 06:33:51 AStorm
    they are more finely grained versions
05/21 06:34:06 AStorm
    bonsaikitten: 97% was a pessimistic estimate for Linux tree.
05/21 06:34:25 loki_val
    Dude, what you call finely grained version, we call "not production
    ready".
05/21 06:34:36 AStorm
    you're wrong too
05/21 06:34:45 AStorm
    who does the testing deeming it "production ready"?
05/21 06:34:57 AStorm
    Do your homework, instead of relying on someone to do it for you.
05/21 06:34:58 loki_val
    You need at least a bit of QA on a version before you put it into
    production.
05/21 06:35:04 AStorm
    ...
05/21 06:35:08 pchrist|univ
    loki_val: show us your "uname -r" :P
05/21 06:35:09 loki_val
    I don't have the time for that.
05/21 06:35:20 AStorm
    loki_val: excuses, they're always good.
05/21 06:35:30 AStorm
    :-)
05/21 06:35:40 loki_val
    pchrist|univ: 2.6.23.12-hrt5
05/21 06:35:50 AStorm
    devel tree
05/21 06:35:58 AStorm
    :-)
05/21 06:36:01 loki_val
    Nahh, patches for my own comfort.
05/21 06:36:10 pchrist|univ
    you AStorm ?
05/21 06:36:10 AStorm
    hrtimer tree?
05/21 06:36:14 pchrist|univ
    :P
05/21 06:36:17 loki_val
    My clock would do strange things without it.
05/21 06:36:25 AStorm
    2.6.25-rc8-electric1
05/21 06:36:39 loki_val
    That's like SOO old.
05/21 06:36:48 AStorm
    need to update it some day
05/21 06:36:50 AStorm
    too lazy
05/21 06:36:55 AStorm
    it's stable
05/21 06:37:47 AStorm
    what I don't get is people publishing kitchen-sink patchsets :>
05/21 06:37:48 hiyuh
    hmm, upstream's live one is ok to use? then why releases are b0rken
    one? t3h devs will break their code in repo to release?
05/21 06:38:01 AStorm
    hiyuh: not exactly
05/21 06:38:15 AStorm
    it's just releases aren't any more stable than main git tree
05/21 06:38:22 loki_val
    HAHAHAHAHAHA!
05/21 06:38:33 *
    loki_val giggles
05/21 06:38:37 AStorm
    Linux has no real cooling period
05/21 06:38:43 AStorm
    (I mean the kernel)
05/21 06:38:51 AStorm
    unlike Firefox for example
05/21 06:39:04 *
    hiyuh breaks his code to make t3h release.
05/21 06:39:15 AStorm
    mwhahaha

(AStorm and loki_val continue to argue about it)

個人的にはupstream repoから直接パクってきたモノだろうとreleaseしたtar玉だろうと、
少しぶっ壊れている方が可愛気があって好きだったりするが、その辺りのサジ加減が問題かも。
releaseすべきか、せざるべきか、それが問題だ。 :P
[Personally, I kinda prefer to play recent sources (no matter it was live one
or tarball) w/ itty-bitty bugz. But I can't say it's for all users.
It's DA question of degree. "release or not, it's DA problem." :p]